[4], While growing up in rural Wisconsin, Mays had a lot of curiosity but had to learn many things all by himself due to a lack of available resources and information. I personally think it was HIV. No one is saying that r241; and the death speculation has been focused on those who died prematurely during a fraught time period. Across more than 30 years, every moment we shared in music was special., noted Pat Metheny. [quote] .. but speculation on DL can be far from the truth. According to Loftus, the CIA had knowledge of his condition, and convinced Israel not to assassinate him and wait for his inevitable death of the disease, since the subsequent widespread connotations of the disease with homosexuality would discredit him. He recently profile Bowie and he definitely had cancer. Many years before we first met, Alun Morgan was a huge and lasting influence on my jazz listening and helped shape my taste for the music. Some over the coarse of weeks or months. Another vote for Lyle Alzado & Gregory Hines. Co-founder of the Pat Metheny Group and GRAMMY-winning contemporary jazz keyboardist and composer Lyle Mays has died at the age of 66. Mays appeared on Methenys 1977 album Watercolours (ECM), and it was their elegiac 1982 masterpiece As Falls Wichita, So Falls Wichita Falls that really cemented Mays reputation as a sound painter par excellence. Upon graduation from UNT, Mays promptly won an audition for the piano chair in Woody Hermans orchestra, with whom he toured for eight months. He wasn't HIV-positive. If we were talking Lyle Menendez, that's one I'd believe in a hearbeat. When I was involved in AIDS projects in Hawaii in the late 80s, we used to meet for information sharing once a month at the office of a professor at the U. of Hawaii in Honolulu. I kind of feel like the music industry has left me, he said in a revealing podcast interview for Jazziz in 2016, and his observation that people were increasingly reluctant to pay for music has proven to be remarkably prescient. He was married three times (to women) but there were rumors he was gay. Much like Marburg did for 30 years and Ebola on and off for ten year cycles, till both took hold in the 90s and became much more mainstream. died of HIV/AIDS. His death on August 9, 2008, was caused by complications from pneumonia. He will be missed. I first was exposed to the late great Lyle Mays via Pat Methany, as Im a rock/jazz/fusion guitarist from St. Louis MO. R259 you mean Ernest? So yeah - he died in an elevator from a drug patch. How so, R183? It was reported as a rare type of cancer. Mays toured with Woody Herman for eight months between 1975 and 1976, but it was a meeting with guitarist Pat Metheny at the 1974 Wichita Jazz Festival that would come to most define his subsequent career. Unlock an article. I really enjoyed reading an interview he had in Keyboard Magazine back in 1986, complete with a recording of his music on one of those thin record-player compatible disks magazines had back then. R112, not to belabor the obvious, but speculation on DL can be far from the truth. ? Who knows if this is true but Jamie did on of his stand up acts where he talks about how pretty Prince was. He was 66. So, I'm gonna have to switch [laughs] platforms. Or do they think their wit is SO original that no one in the years this thread has been ongoing thought of that? Mays remained with the Pat Metheny Group until 2010when he not only left the group, but also began paying increasingly less attention to the music business in general. from r32, Irvin Allen Lee, Calvin from the Edge of Night, oh my. Please click here to update your account with a username and password. Aside from releasing a statement before his death confirming he had AIDS, the precise cause was stated on the death certificate, which I assume was by his wish. [quote]Prince died of AIDS and we'll never know because the family knows it'll hurt their sales. The explanation for his death at the time was pure hokum. Yes and lived with it just fine, until the HIV infection pushed her into death. Hes probably the first guy that helped me really push my musical boundaries and to get me interested in anything outside the typical rock,metal and pop. From there, Mays became the longest tenured member of the Pat Metheny Group, co-writing much of the bands material and blending acoustic piano with an ever-growing array of synthesizers to add misty textures and whimsy to their sessions. Wikileaks released an alleged death certificate for Jobs that stated HIV as an underlying cause for his death and that Karposi's of the pancreas leading to respiratory failure as the primary cause. Odd since he's not that old and was once muscular. Gower Champion died of blood cancer in 1980. He was the composer of all but one tune, and the sole arranger, for the bands 1975 recording Lab 75which netted Mays his first Grammy nomination. But it would be several years before they regularly began performing and recording together, starting with Methenys 1977 album Watercolors. Given what we know about the incubation period and progression to full-blown AIDS, the timeline makes sense. After his death, John Loftus reported on ABC radio that Arafat had died of AIDS. His former manager, Keith . I heard Jackie O got it from Nureyev, but it was hushed up. While Mays first professional gig out of college was playing with Woody Hermans band, it was his work with Metheny that defined the next 30 years of his career. Lyle Mays, a jazz pianist and composer, and longtime member of the Pat Metheny Group, died Feb. 10, 2020, in Los Angeles, Calif., after a long illness, at age 66. Had a deep and abiding love of the twink, the fresher the better. I loved his sounds, i.e the ARP, Oberheim MOOG, and other beautiful sounding synths and keys he used. Peace to him and his family. Aside from many years of touring with Metheny, Mays recorded for ECM with Steve Swallow and Eberhard Weber, and the latters Later That Evening (1982) is one of the labels very best albums. [quote]Isn't it an open secret in NY music circles that this certain individual - who's discussed in a current DL thread because of a book by his daughter - died of an Aids-related illness? I'll have to look elsewhere for my unfounded rumors. Developing an early interest in mathematics, architecture and chess, Mays played organ at his local church, and as a teenager was guided into the world of jazz by the twin touchstones of Bill Evans and electric-era Miles Davis. Very sad indeed! He died of mesothelioma which is not that rare. He studied music in college, got turned on to jazz and went off to playing with Woody Herman's Big Band. Has anyone else heard this? R19 Amanda Blake had a home in Scottsdale, AZ not far from my home. Steve Jobs. It's very likely AIDS came and when in cycles killing a few here and there. No, President Reagan didn't do anything but there were lots of stories about him not doing anything so I knew something was going on because there were stories that nobody was doing anything. Shorter performing at the 2015 Earshot Jazz Festival in Seattle. David turned to me. He was a bisexual man, who died of AIDS and circulated the Roid story as it was far more palatable. Now, Lyle Mays has taken the last train home, passing on Monday, February 10, 2020 at the age of 66. McQueen was definitely positive. As it is there have been documentaries about him, I watched one several years ago. And he may or may not have had HIV but if he did it was under control. [23] Mays also composed Distance for Pat Metheny Groups Grammy-winning and RIAA-certified Gold album, Still Life (1987, Geffen), "Mindwalk"[24] in 2009 for renowned marimba player, Nancy Zeltsman, and previously "Somewhere in Maine"[25] in 1988 for her duo with violinist Sharan Leventhal, Marimolin, and Street Dreams 3 for his solo album, Street Dreams (Geffen, 1988) with top classical performers in New York City. Lyle Mays - Eberhard Digital Download + Digital Liner Notes $5.00 USD. Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag. No one played key boards or guitar like those two. He did enough hard drugs to have a lasting effect, and long term substance abusers (even if they've quit) have health issues when they hit their 60s. I was shocked years later when friends I knew from Toronto told me they heard little about the AIDS crisis until 1984. Ahmad Jamal (19302023) with his trio at the Jazz Showcase in Chicago. From the old SUMMERSTOCK MEMORIES thread: The one story where I really cant tell you the name of the star involved a magical summer night. [7][8][9] He composed and arranged for the One O'Clock Lab Band and was the composer and arranger for theGrammy Award-nominated album Lab 75. He was never married, liked women's tennis, liked catsI was always suspicious that he was gay. [quote]Arafat had lost a lot of weight before he died, he was stick thin and looked very sick. Convy - brain cancer 1991". That death certificate has never been verified and is usually dismissed as fake. And I know we only hear about the pussyhound sleaziness side of them - but when guys are that compulsive sexually - I often wonder if were only seeing a small part of the story. The shocker came six months after her death when The L.A. County Coroner announced that the husband of Brittany Murphy, Simon Monjack, had died from the same acute pneumonia and severe anemia. The number 9 is the peak of change because this is the time to close an old cycle and open a new cycle. Lyle Mays may has chances such as moving house, changing job, severing some old relationships, giving birth to a new relationship As for so many artists of his generation, rock and popular music were formative influences, and Mays collaborative credits also included recordings with Joni Mitchell (Shadows And Light, 1980), Rickie Lee Jones (Girl At Her Volcano, 1983), and Earth Wind & Fire (Heritage, 1990). Hell, have you ever seen [bold]anyone[/bold] with a chronic fatal disease who wasnt withered just before the end? A certain known to be closeted athlete who died of AIDS years ago. His broad intelligence and musical wisdom informed every aspect of who he was in every way. Duh. Lyle Mays, the keyboardist who spent a significant portion of his career recording and performing as a member of the Pat Metheny Group, died Feb. 10 at Adventist Hospital in Simi Valley, California. He died in 1985 EXCUUUUSE me, but I was not a homersexshul. r112 a dear friend of mine who was a radio DJ in New York told me the Prince always requested a male escort when in town. Incredibly sad to hear of this. There were reports in late 1980 about two men in San Francisco dying mysteriously of very similar symptoms, symptoms that later became what became indicators of what would later be called full-blown AIDS. Funny that Paul Stag is the one still standing, if all of this is true? Now I wonder if it was a political statement, or if it was indeed homophobic? He also played trumpet, including on the Pat Metheny Groups First Circle. While his parents held steady day jobs, both harbored a deep love of music and played instruments: His father was a self-taught guitarist, and his mother played piano and organ, mostly in church. Directed by: Florian Zeller. Or was that all about publicity? By Emily Blackwood Written on Feb 26, 2019. Lyle Mays: OK. Bowie, rumors. Lyle was one of the greatest musicians I have ever known. I know kidney failure was the official cause, but she got around A LOT and was with Prince during his Wild days. I will miss him with all my heart.. I didn't say he didn't have AIDS because he was straight. Years ago I read an article in a local weekly about a gay man, still relatively healthy twenty years after his diagnosis, in which he stated that he was able to determine the day he contracted the disease. [249] The epidemic then rapidly spread among high-risk groups (initially, sexually promiscuous men who have sex with men). His niece, jazz vocalist Aubrey Johnson, announced his death on social media, noting that he passed away "surrounded by loved ones, after a long battle with a recurring . Great attitude. Or was it something else. The guitarist called his collaborator of 30 years in the jazz fusion group "one of the greatest musicians I have ever known.". Just not in the way you meant it. Fictionary (1993) with Marc Johnson and Jack DeJohnette perhaps brought the most straight-ahead music of Mays career, while Solo: Improvisations For Expanded Piano (2000) was an epic journey through a MIDI-enhanced landscape. Michael J. Hello. The following is a list of notable performers of rock and roll music or rock music, and others directly associated with the music as producers, songwriters, or in other closely related roles, who died in the 2020s decade.The list gives their date, cause and location of death, and their age. But medical experts told News . I remember reading reports even back in 1991/2 that Miles Davis had died of AIDS, in fact, that he was on AZT at the time of his death. I remember Arsenio Hall had a discussion about it on his show. R205/R206, Miles Davis was also a homosexual on the Down Low his entire life. All rights reserved. Weird r177. IIRC he died of pneumocystic sarcoma. 100% of flight attendants are bottoms, so how would they have spread it to tops? He died in 1999 at 63 for a heart condition but had lost an enormous amount of weight. Lyles irory work was brilliant and he brought so much to the P.M. Grp. In the last 15 years, there are practically no influential personalities to die from AIDS-related complications. About Jazz Journal R134 Sorry, but that's a photo of Dom Deluise. It was reported as a rare type of cancer. The Israelis had wanted wanted him dead for years. He played live up to the end and people who saw him said he looked atrocious. I'm usually thrown off course by those who blame steroid use. Photo: Getty. My favorite Pianist! He always looks sick and frail and he does like it up the ass. Oh, he was full blown alright. That's what HE said. I lived in Berkeley up until 1981 and there was a small article in the local paper about men coming into the Gay's Men's Health Center with lesions of unknown origin. Lyle Mays, a jazz keyboardist whose work, chiefly with the Pat Metheny Group, won nearly a dozen Grammy Awards, died Feb. 10 in Los Angeles. He was an enormous talent. [19] John Loftus reported on ABC radio that Arafat had died of AIDS. His death was announced by his niece, vocalist Aubrey Johnson, who posted the news to social media late on the evening of the 10th. Not all, of course, but I'd gamble that most. Don't remember the date but it may have been before or around the time that the term AIDS was first used. Curious how it randomly came back after being dead since 2018. Arafat's long time personal doctor confirmed he died of AIDS, although that's not the official cause of his death. Mays, who died Monday at age 66, had a "long . Prince died of AIDS ? Jim Henson died of pneumonia. You seem pretty crazy. I could be bitter about that, but I have other interests and other skills, so Ive moved on. Every week I watch Autopsy:The Last Hours Of where a medical examiner examines the coroner's reports as well as past medical history of a celebrity death. Reportedly, more than half if them tested positive. No married "straight" man has ever died of AIDS, r58? So, its entirely possible many people died from AIDS long before it was even recognized. (What the person died of) Manner of Death= Classification system developed for public health statistics based on the circumstances under which death occurred (How the person died); Manners of death currently includes 5 categories: Accident= An . Mays performed with a MIDI-fied Steinway Grand Piano and a variety of synthesizers, notably an Oberheim 4 Voice synth. He is/was a very public figure and his life very searchable. Lyle Mays, a jazz keyboardist whose work, chiefly with the Pat Metheny Group, won nearly a dozen Grammy Awards, has died at his home in Los Angeles. ], [quote]"Did Bert Convy die of AIDS? In the meantime, Mays continued freelancing, including work with bassist Steve Swallow, drummer Bob Moses, and Rickie Lee Jones. Lyle Mays, a keyboardist, composer and orchestrator who helped carve a new channel for contemporary jazz with The Pat Metheny Group, died on Monday in Los Angeles. Maybe because there were enough rumors of orgys and dalliances with trans people to break the internet before it even existed? What you died from hardly mattersthe fact is, YOU'RE DEAD, so who gives a rat's ass what from? The first time I heard San Lorenzo was on my car radio on WJZZ in Detroit circa 1977. So its no wonder they all had ensuing health problems. I remember a Time magazine cover story on AIDS appearing in 1981 or 1982. Lyle Mays: Oh, well, thank you. NEW YORK Lyle Mays, a keyboardist, composer, and arranger best known for his long association with guitarist Pat Metheny, died Monday at Adventist Hospital in Simi Valley, Calif. His death was announced via his Facebook page: "It is with deep sadness that I share that my uncle, Lyle Mays, passed away this morning in Los Angeles surrounded by loved ones, after a long battle with a recurring illness. R88 I thought David Bowie died from liver cancer, just like Lou Reed did; but they both probably had Hep C and that can cause liver cancer. James Coco died of a heart attack, not AIDS. You know how he got AIDS. Arafat was poisoned. R184 what did he say wrong? Of course, there have been AIDS patients who used cancer as a cover, but gay men do sometimes die from actual, non-AIDS-related cancer, just like any other population, and did not cease doing so between 1981 and 1995. Suspicious timing. Your meatus did NOT pass inspection! There are lots of murder cases where someone was slowly poisoned. Hello and thank you for being a DL contributor. Steve had truly bizarre eating habits. I got into computers just after the Radio Shack, solder-it-together-yourself stage, he explained. In the brain stem, regions called the medulla and the pons control the depth and rate of breathing.Both are loaded with opioid receptors proteins that sit on the . Not covered up; but if he was HIV+ or living with AIDS it was not known as that at the time. In the end he was another actor who died at a rather young age. Terms & conditions Across more than 30 years, every moment we shared in music was special. [20] Lyle's Oberheim analog synth pad and his voice counting the second hand of a clock at the recording session, "55, 3..," which can be heard from the bridge part of "As Falls Wichita, So Falls Wichita Falls (1981)," was used for Christian Dior's Fahrenheit Cologne commercials for almost 30 years, from 1988 to 2016.[21]. Prince died of a drug overdose. He was 66. While we now know about AIDS deaths in the early eighties, the first reports of a "mystery" disease killing gay men weren't published until 1982, and HIV was not identified until a couple of years later than that and couldn't be detected by testing until after that. Of course not! A marriage with Miss Kitty would give him hetero credentials, something the glass-closeted gay Spaeth needed. Adored listening to him on PMG and his own albums, as well as seeing him live with the group a number of times where he was sensational. I had bedded the musical director (David) of a touring show, and we really clicked sexually. Anyone who had "cancer" from 1981 to 1995 and was gay had AIDS. As conspiracy theories flow, people have latched on to the fact that Michael Jackson and his good friend Elizabeth Taylor were avid AIDS activists. I'm surprised we're at over a 100 replies and his name hasn't been mentioned. Sourced told the . --Ed. Ken Handler (son of Ruth Handler [who created Barbie] and whom the Ken doll was named after) allegedly died of a brain tumor. Lyle Mays, an acclaimed pianist, keyboardist, and composer who was best known for his long and close association with guitarist Pat Metheny, died on the morning of February 10 in Los Angeles. In theaters November 25 2022 brought to you by Sony Pictures Classics. He wasn't gay and he didn't die of AIDS. Max Robinson likely contracted AIDs from prostitutes. Did Prince "accidentally" overdose on his AIDS medications? [quote]I think George Michael was full blown when he died. Sometime in 1978, IIRC. We did a brief round of gigs a while back, and it was clear in every way that he had had enough of hotels, buses, and so forth., Mays quietly lived out the rest of his days in California, working in the computer industry and encouraging the creative efforts of his niece. r223, Bitch my sarcasm beat u to the punch. [31] Mays brought intellectual and organic architectural concepts in his music and sound design based on the innovative integration of many different sources to create a completely new soundscape as Wright achieved through his unique architectural landscape. His broad intelligence and musical wisdom informed every aspect of who he was in every way. Clayburgh had chronic lymphocytic leukemia for 20 years. I think about how I didn't live my life but when I came of age in the early 80s there were lots of stories in the media about AIDS. r104 - I did several Google searches and read several obits and nothing mentions AIDS related symptoms typical in 1990. Here's how opioids kill. Watch the trailer, find screenings & book tickets for The Son on the official site. But RIP Nana Vasconcelas too, who was sadly even more obscure, but had worked not only on the Wichita recording but with Jon Hassell too. While still in school, he wrote most or all of the arrangements and What Was contains one of the most brilliant piano solos ever. When film music historians discuss the increasing influence of jazz on movie soundtracks through the 1940s and into the 1950s, they usually mention films like The Best Years Of Joachim Khn, Mateusz Smoczyski: Speaking Sound, Alister Spence, Joe Williamson, Christopher Cantillo: Curve, Arv Garrison: wizard of the six string / 2, Alun Morgan, a huge and lasting influence. Some features on this site require registration. [quote]Along the same lines, I often wondered why Magic Johnson didn't try the IV drug use excuse. John had been clean for many years by the time he died. Lyle David Mays was born on November 27, 1953 in Wausaukee, Wisconsin, to a guitarist father and pianist mother. The announcement was made on Metheny's website. [quote] Do any of these posters who keep spouting Nancy Reagan and Blanche Devereaux even read the thread, FFS? Drug overdose and intoxication are significant causes of accidental death and can also be used as a form of suicide.Death can occur from overdosing on a single or multiple drugs, or from combined drug intoxication (CDI) due to poly drug use.Poly drug use often carries more risk than use of a single drug, due to an increase in side effects, and drug synergy. Across more than 30 years, every moment we shared in music was special. The best recording I think Lyle ever made was with Metheny on the So falls Wichita Falls recording. He has never been sick. The airplane was the key to it's massive spread. [quote]Anyone who had "cancer" from 1981 to 1995 and was gay had AIDS. He had a lot of pulmonary stuff going on anyway. His death, at Adventist. From Wikipedia: "According to some of his friends in news articles he did enjoy the services of female prostitutes.". I think George Michael was full blown when he died. It's public knowledge that Alexander McQueen was HIV+ at the time of his death. He and Metheny cowrote most of the music, including the 1985 score for the film The Falcon and the Snowman. I will not tolerate any filthy disease in this house. I knew many of the people involved at the time. He was playing with Pat [Metheny], and it was just the quartet at that time. Eat ass. Mays was born on November 27, 1953 in Wausaukee, Wisconsin. This thread is from 2016. is a hottie. [22] He composed several contemporary classical pieces, such as "Twelve Days in the Shadow of a Miracle", a piece for harp, flute, viola, and synthesizer recorded in 1996 by the Debussy Trio. George Michael didn't die of AIDS but he had it. I thought Arafat was poised? View local obituaries in maryland.
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