Additionally, the mustache will not go beyond a horizontal line extending across the corners of the mouth and no more than 1/4 inch beyond a vertical line drawn from the corner of the mouth.. For DiPietro, observing the Nazarite vow is a way to show his love of God. All of this concern about facial hair when the concern should be the current effort to enlist people with known mental disorders for inclusivity.. Religious beards in the military were allowed in 2017, but the process to be granted that right takes a bit of time. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Analytics". Advertisement cookies are used to provide visitors with relevant ads and marketing campaigns. In the end he has full retirement short of 20 years active because of that break. The changes are written in red and the original policy in black. Dont accept this finding! I served during the Zumwalt days and had a neat, military-style beard as a Navy Airborne Electronic Warfare Officer. If prescribed medications are needed to alleviate that problem, then it SHOULD be included as a DISABILITY percentage, and freely given at discharge or retirement, PERIOD! The policy change will allow beards, long hair, religious tattoos and turbans to be worn by members in uniform, according to the Department of Defense (DOD) Instruction issued this week. The idiots that want to be in the military will soon learn that when he needs to use a chemical protection mask he is a dead man because the mask wont seal. We commend their motion to include people from all religions in their grooming standards. I would appreciatee it very much if I get a response. Since you mentioned it, you ought to buy one for her. The Navy allowed beards beginning in 1970, only to reverse the policy in the mid-1980s a directive that was soon followed by the Coast Guard. She covers operations, policy, personnel, leadership and other issues affecting service members. That seed was planted early in my life, DiPietro said. "Hey, sorry man. My best friend is gay and he is one of many I would like to have protecting me in a fox hole when I am asleep. It does not store any personal data. Finally, in 400 years when they dig your sorry carcass up.guess what? that is your choice and you should be willing to live with the consequences. Your email address will not be published. While Muslims, Sikhs, and even Pagans have received individual exemptions in the past to grow their facial hair, DiPietro is the first known case of a Christian receiving such an exemption in the U.S. Armed Forces. What can I do to do that?. The next move would be exchanging the uniform for robes for some religions or replacing helmets with turbans. I, too, had broken service. It said hed have to pursue the hair portion of his request separately. Went, to Vietnam with the 5th SF, volunteered for. A new mustache policy has arrived for airmen. If the Biden Clown Circus has its way the military branches just might be required to have 51% female composition and would exclude males from enlisting until that goal is met. He joined the Army the same day he turned 18 years old in 2010, about seven years before the service allowed religious exemptions. Singh is a Sikh soldier who applied for the facial hair waiver before he was to report to Fort Belvoir. Copyright 1977 - 2023 Universal Life Church Ministries. Firefighters go through the same thing with their masks. The answer came just days later. It used to be honor and resect, proud to wear the uniform. You are about to delete your comment. I'm a retired Army female. Six years between the USMC and NatGuard. I could agree and disagree on this response. If a poorly fitted mask cause a casualty, distraction or interference to the completion of an objective, then his personal choices are a detriment to others. It is my personally held belief that growing a beard will bring me closer to my God and bring me into his favor.. Examples of waiver-approved religious apparel styles for turbans, from left, hijabs and beards in the U.S. Air Force. When in a MOPP environment hair can leak, leaving little choice but to get the antidote as fast as possible. We served with fellow service members we KNEW were gay, but as long as they maintained proper military bearing and did their jobs NO ONE CARED. These Cards Might Be Right for You, 6 Additional States Give Military Retirees a Break on Their Taxes, New VA Policy to Offer Emergency Mental Health Services for Free, Universal Studios Military Discount: Everything You Need to Know. Where are they going to hide in a real world situation? He had to appeal his GI bill as well and they paid it. First, you chide someone for not liking transgender (that is his opinion) then you attempt to argue a lame argument defending your liberal left wing crap! It wasnt a matter of one or the other, so he pushed the issue further. What I do find completely offensive is that this soldiers defense of growing a beard is to claim taking a vow before God and providing no evidence that they are fulfilling all the requirements of that vow. Thank you for the compliment and the smile this morning. DiPietro observes the Nazarite vow from the Old Testament, which states that "no razor may be used on their head.". Requiring the unit commander, base chaplain, installation commander up to the Air Force Deputy Chief of Staff, Personnel Division, to all sign off on the beard waiver. But on the same note when you put on any military uniform you are representing the military regardless! 'a mink': You're clueless! The Navy allowed beards beginning in 1970, only to reverse the policy in the mid-1980s a directive that was soon followed by the Coast Guard. is not going to cut it. Same with firefighters. That isnt exactly the Army way the service has specific rules about hair length and styling, for men and women, including a strict no-beard policy. "Sikhs are allowed to wear beards and turbans because it actually is a religious requirement of their faith. It doesn't have to be long and cave-man-like, as the white guys WILL grow. Meanwhile, while STILL on active duty, black soldiers with that issue should be given the same consideration and respect as white soldiers to grow a beard without penalties and discrimination. The current uniform regs and styles also do not inspire neatness or cleanliness, The lack of the draft has hurt this country. To sign that contract with the U.S. gov is fo forever surrender your citizenship, from that moment on you are property of the U.S. and every actual citzen who makes their own way in society rather then selling themselves into slavery for security in the form of food,shelter, medical,dental, and the fraternity of the most well armed militant cult on the Earth. Jacob DiPietro, May 2021. The cookie is set by GDPR cookie consent to record the user consent for the cookies in the category "Functional". Grab a book or poster board and instead of gripping do something for someone other then your self and try and be an inspiration or a light or a be on and do good for this globe. Beards don't grow over our eyes, and we don't comb them up on our faces. The in the early 1980s that all went away.. then in the the mid 1990s gang tattoos, face and hand tattoos kept people out. These changes will allow Airmen additional flexibilities as to how to wear mustaches, Gwendolyn DeFilippi, acting deputy chief of staff for manpower, personnel and services, said in a press release. This makes it especially difficult for men who have a beard keeping with religious traditions and requirements. Sikhs dont cut their hair and beards out of respect for the God-given form. Registration on or use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. I totally agree get him out of office pronto. Clean shaven men can think they look manly all they want, but that doesn't make it so. RELATED: Dont confuse military action with the mission of God. Unfortunately, the U.S. military can make it difficult for many religious groups to continue thepractice while serving their country. He married a woman hed been dating for years, but when she was pregnant with their first child, she left. The Military has already told Sikhs this and they have already told orthodox jews this and they have even told Rastafarians the same thing. The hair curls back into the skin and causes bumps. I also wonder about your age a bit (or at least your maturity level) due to the name comment. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. My personal faith is deeply tied to the modern warrior lifestyle that I have been able to live during my military career, said Hopper, adding that the beard has never hindered his ability to put mission first. Simratpal Singh faced many complications when trying to receive a waiver for his beard. I would love a nice faux fur, though to be honest I would prefer a shrug over a full coat and in silver as that would help the wonderful highlights I have been getting this last couple of years. Bring it back , now. The answer might be, allowed if Soldier 'pays' for a new type of 'secure' over gas mask for people with beards (who knows what the future will bring). Good luck, I have never heard of such foolishness. I SWWASZ AN E5 SSGTAND WARDMASTER ATT EDWARDS AFB, CALIFORNIA. And as you well know, bearing and appearance affected your APR, which bear heavily on your fit for promotion. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. It is not. I feel like theres still a culture that is, truthfully, fearful and hating towards that which is different., As for other soldiers who are serious about their religious obligations but are scared to ask for an exception to policy, DiPietro urged them to do their research beforehand. Amy Minckler made the comment that as long as it doesn't endanger anyone but themselves, they should be allowed to have facial hair. Some people here really seem confused, and equate being in the military to any other "Job". Other facets of the federal government and first-responder organizations could be impacted. Oh, and ministers as well. :D. My response was to the article saying there are already men in the military who are allowed facial hair. It also could affect Wiccans and others who may obtain tattoos or piercings for religious reasons. You've read 0 of 5 of todays most popular posts. Maybe they don't meet minimum standards for protection. Uriah Walker/Army). Functional cookies help to perform certain functionalities like sharing the content of the website on social media platforms, collect feedbacks, and other third-party features. Take healthcare personnel in military hospitals, cooks and cafeteria workers on military bases, for instance, who won't be sent into combat. It would surely make the lives of religious people a lot easier. That would really confuse the enemy. Exactly what i was going to post. Why the Bible Could Get Banned in Utah Schools, Church Claims Prayer Regrew Woman's Amputated Toes, Is There an Anti-Trans Holy War Brewing? Maybe there are too bulky for a soldier to carry. I was a draftee who rose to As a matter of fact, many aren't. RETIRED CMC USNAVY! In the interim, the Becket Fund says the Navy has agreed to allow all four men religious accommodation to wear beards while the case is pending. Published Jul 30, 2021 11:57 AM EDT. The request came after policy changes in 2017 that allow a soldier's brigade-level commander to approve a request to receive religious exemptions to grow out their hair. In the military, a soldier doesn't live for himself, but tor the mission. Photos courtesy of USAF. Jacob DiPietro, a cargo specialist with the Florida Army Reserves 489th Transportation Company (Seaport Operations), was approved for a religious exemption to the Army hair standards this week. There are many religions that allow beards in the military. I just felt utterly compelled that this is what I was being called to do., By In that same vein, these new policies are designed to flatten processes. If youre trying to fleece the system because you just dont want to shave, or you just want to grow your hair out, he says, its not gonna work.. I could not agree more General. All rights reserved. RETIRED CMC USNAVY! And I repeat again, I respect the Christians who wish to be Nazarites, regardless of whether they have a beard or not and have been well trained, they will be good soldiers both for the country and for God, all be blessed. Militaries around the world have varying policies . You know there always something next. INCLUDING HI RISK PEDIATRIC FC AND NEONATAL NURSERY It won't take up much room in their fifty pound backpacks. :D. Beards are cool. Articles may contain affiliate links which enable us to share in the revenue of any purchases made. "There is no religious requirement for beards in Heathenry," the post read. Meanwhile, commanders have some new guidelines for mandatory behavioral training. Once I present my memorandum for record and cite all of the applicable regulations and directives, the focus on the beard tends to go away, for the most part, he said in the release. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Other. Accordingly, we are now considering our final options before litigation, said Graham West, the communications director of the Sikh Coalition. Some pagans might choose to grow a beard in order to express their religious identity or beliefs. I used to shave with cold water in my pot (helmet liner) in the field with a Really? I said, Oh, this is it, DiPietro recounted. Speak to the Israelites and say to them: If a man or woman wants to make a special vow, a vow of dedication to the Lord as a Nazirite During the entire period of their Nazirite vow, no razor may be used on their head. Furthermore, the arbitrary and capricious forms of creating conformance, even to how one manages their hair, is outdated and doesnt focus on what really matters in public service: performance,he said. I served 21 years of continus service , but 21 is 21 !!. Let's leave pretty faces to women. . This is important because, in an emergency, if you grab a gas mask, there is no guarantee it is going to fit. If a sailor is retired, what right does the navy have to bitch at him because of his beard ? For the first time, the Army will allow a Christian soldier to break their long-standing dress code and grooming standards and grow facial hair while serving. They might even call it the cavalry. Retired SGM. Despite the OCCHs position that this accommodation lacks a religious basis and is not a required tenet of the soldiers faith, there is every indication that this moral decision to adhere to the Nazarite vow is a large and important pillar to his spiritual health and well-being.. The first person granted a beard waiver in the U.S. Airforce due to his faith was a Muslim soldier. Get off his back about his beard. Di Liscia had been granted a no-shave chit in 2018 as a morale measure. We commend their motion to include people from all religions in their grooming standards. Both are highly justifiable, but if a white man's issues are going to be more important than the uncomfortable problem black men have, then NEITHER should be approved. Oh and dark chocolate please. He spent months working on his formal request, knowing that the Army would look for any reason at all to deny the request. It's been many decades since I was in school, and the kids back then were at least creative about it. You intimated that if one endangered only himself, go for it. My 22 year career, Ive seen this cycle. If you spouse was a 100% disabled Veteran and past away then the surviving spouse should get half of his disability plus medical coverage under ChampVA. For you facial hair obsessed supposed professionals you are entirely missing the real issues. For someone who doesn't use their name, I find it a bit telling that instead of trying to make your point first, you needed to try to come up with a put down beforehand. Further blurring the beard waiver criteria is that while Norse paganism encourages the growth of a beard, or skegg, the religion doesnt require it. Started where you can have beards, foo man chu mustache, turbins. Personally instead of sacrificing our military standards, implement the draft and to hell with any exceptions, because your in college. In observance with your Christian faith, you may wear uncut hair in accordance with Army uniform and grooming standards provided in Army Regulation (AR) 670-1 You may grow your hair in accordance with the standards for long hair set forth in AR 670-1, Brito said in the memo. As for women, hair hanging down, braids, any thought to the safety hazards that is going to cost? You may see someone promoted who cannot do their existing job and may not even be able to read or write coherently. The Armys top leadership has been going through pretty much the entire organization with a fine-toothed comb this year, from a new fitness test to a non-deployable policy, and now theyre rolling out some tweaks to the services religious accommodation rules and mandatory training for sexual assault and substance abuse prevention, among others. If a soldier is following the rules as set by the Army, they should absolutely be free from harassment discrimination. After a little under 6 months in the hospital my enlistment was up and got out. Someone needs to take him out!! From left, A02 Joe Probasco, LTC Kamal S. Kalsi and A02 Guldeep Kaur stand for a photo near the World War II memorial in Washington D.C. LTC Kalsi is the first Sikh American soldier to have been given a uniform accomodation allowing a beard and dastar - both observed as requirements for Sikh followers. The Space Force also announced the same expanded mustache policy, along with a more loose tattoo policy. Agree 100%! So while they cant stop you from wearing a beard or hair buns, they can refuse to deploy you and if you cant be deployed, then your military career is over. There is no religious requirement for beards in Heathenry, the post read. NOW HAVE A GOOD DAY, AND WIPE UP YOUR TEARS BABY! He said maybe, VA will help you ? Your DNA will show you are either a male or female! are you still in grade school? Now, though, mums the word from internet commenters. Of course that was 27 years ago, in the real Navy. lice out in the field? Every transfer of duty station would start a whole thing about when he rotates again and when he was eligible for retirement. Im glad Im out of the military as I cannot stand to see one of the mightiest nations brought to surrender by idiocy and defamatory measures taken by the likes of yourself! I had to wear a adoft Hitler mustache for 22 yrs, which looked like crap! I want killing machines that never falter nor stray nor betray, and certainly want ones that dont bitch about facial hair or gods. It helps to have a god on our side, no matter who we work for. Why the military doesn't just go with those, I don't know. His unit contacted him and asked if he wanted to press the issue further, but it wasnt a matter of if for DiPietro. He is believed to be the first turbaned Sikh to receive such an accommodation, though his lawyers have criticized the strict standards put in place by the Marine Corps. For additional Heathen religious support in the US Armed Forces, please consider checking out the Open Halls Project. While that battle was won, and DiPietro said he was sincerely thankful for everyone who helped me and counseled me throughout this process. The experience has made him rethink his future in the Army. A religious practice may be an action, behavior, or course of conduct constituting an individual expression of religious beliefs, regardless of whether the practice is compelled by, or central to, the religion concerned.. THEN ENJOY YOUR GAY BUDDIES AND DIE TOGETHER YOUR ARE ONE OF THE REASONS THEY LET GAYS BACK IN THE SERVICE. Or should everyone follow the same regulations, regardless of faith? If you want to improve the moral of the Army & other services, this would be a good start. How is it in 2022 you can actually look at your self in the mirror and acknowledge that you are entirely a narrow minded absolute Biggot. MILITARY.NET is a privately owned website and is NOT AFFILIATED (or endorsed)with the U.S. GOVERNMENT, U.S. ARMED FORCES, or DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS. US Army grants first ever religious exemption to Christian soldier to allow him to keep beard and grow hair long https://t.co/kts9VO2SSQ. Today the Navy uses positive-pressure gas masks. CHOSE YOUR SIDE, BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE TO FIGHT FOR ALL YOU ARE ABOUT TO LOSE HERE IN THE FUTURE. A soldier wanting such things, or wanting at all is to me a reason to put a bullet in the head of the unruly and dangerous element in a unit that must be devoid of all individuality. DiPietro). he cannot be deployed if the safety equipment he may need cannot be safely used. In two memos signed on Nov. 8, Army Secretary Mark Esper laid out new processes for allowing religious soldiers to wear distinguishing symbols, as well as refined guidelines for completing mandatory Sexual Harassment/Assault Response and Prevention, Equal Opportunity, suicide prevention, substance abuse prevention and resilience training. Please remove me from this site. No employer private or public should be required to accommodate your particular religion. No matter the religious requirements, the Army interpreted Hoppers request as genuine. If men weren't supposed to have beards we wouldn't be able to grow them. I returned all equipment s that he used like bed, ,,, cane,,wheelchairr( manual/ motorized))) etc to VA. . I dont care what they do, or what they say, do not stand down. The U.S. Army has reportedly acquiesced to the power of Thor, granting a soldier permission to grow a beard in keeping with his Norse pagan faith. Meghann Myers is the Pentagon bureau chief at Military Times. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. KEEP VOTING FOR IDIOTS LIKE BIDEN. Yup, Biden is a frickin idiot! Notably the navies of the United Kingdom and Australia allow sailors to wear beards. But for the soldiers who dont have a religious reason to apply for an exemption but are thinking about doing so anyway just because they dont want to shave of which DiPietro said hes heard from several dont even think about it. Braggs must still shave regularly and is asking for a religious exemption. Over the years, military officers have regularly dealt with requests for religious exemptions to various rules. Wouldn't that look cool when I'm riding my men's cruiser bike with 25" apehangers along the Galveston seawall? As long as they aren't the ones who are getting hurt they won't care if they send a million troops into combat, to do their dirty work for them. Only UK Officers are allowed to grow facial hair and SAS in the field on ops are also non shaven This helps them blend into the background in Arabic countries, Having a beard to blend is sounds like a good idea. They must be holy until the period of their dedication to the Lord is over; they must let their hair grow long, the Bible says. Also, please learn to spell, punctuate, and use proper grammatical structure. Spouses of Disabled Veterans and those that are survivors of the disabled Veterans DO have certain medical benefits. John Hoskins applied for a beard exemption as part of his proclaimed devotion to the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster a faith also known as Pastafarianism., This request is based on my deeply and sincerely held belief in the Pastafarian faith, Hoskins wrote in his request to the Army. All excuses and no drive/no focus. Militaries around the world have varying policies regarding beards. This time I'll probably let it keep growing for the rest of my life. 20 years ago, Switchfoot unleashed the riff that changed Christian rock, LAs Atheist Street Pirates go national in efforts to remove illegal religious signs, 60 years on, Kings Letter from Birmingham Jail relevant as ever, say faith leaders, Yes, Virginia, the Constitution does separate church and state. Although the Air Force has relaxed their mustache policy, beards are still off limits for airmen. It has absolutely nothing to do with religious beliefs. When evaluating the sincerity of a soldiers articulated belief, the GCMCA will consider the credibility of the application and the circumstances of the request, Esper wrote. Hopefully, someday, we will see the acceptance of beards in the military. Aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt, sailor Edmund Di Liscia faced a stark choice. Similar to the Space Forces policies unveiled earlier this week, airmen will now be able to grow mustaches an additional one-fourth of an inch. Sgt. LOL! You can see what the new tattoo policy is here. Official Statement Re: Religious Beard Accommodations in the US Military. He then filed a lawsuit against the Defense Department to gain permission to peacefully follow through with his faith requirements. DiPietro remembered thinking how he expected it to be more difficult to get approval. This time the Army declined, but only after Hoskins request made it all the way to the desk of a deputy chief of staff. KEEP VOTING FOR IDIOTS LIKE BIDEN. Earlier this year, Di Liscia, along with three Muslim sailors, joined in a lawsuit brought by the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, alleging the Navys beard policy amounts to a violation of the Religious Freedom Restoration Act. That was in June 2020. Once you join the military, you no longer for work God, you work for the US governmentbesides, dousn't the bible tell you to follow giverment laws?? Air Force allows Sikh airman to wear turban and beard while serving The. Then again flugo, not everyone in the military is in a combat position. Im now 64 and if they called me back today, I would go as long as there were real commanders in charge and not one of these WOKE Generals on TV. Beards are seen as a sign of religious devotion and commitment, and many military personnel feel that they are a vital part of their religious identity. Chaplains cannot officially approve or deny requests, but recommendations based on perceived sincerity can be made on the service members behalf. The past few years have seen considerable progress in efforts to ensure members of minorities and vulnerable or historically excluded groups are welcome in public service, saidAhmad Maaty, theChair of Muslim Americans in Public Service. For the first time, the Army will allow a Christian soldier to break their long-standing dress code and grooming standards and grow facial hair while serving. In many religions, facial hair is an importanttradition. Do we want pretty boys defending us, or manly looking men. In 2017, grooming standards in the military were updated to better accommodate the faith practices of religious soldiers, primarily Muslims and Sikhs, whose faith requires they keep facial hair. As we all should be aware of, the mustache and its flashiness gave a chest up presentation when presenting yourself to the civilian community .in full dress. He never saw him again, but from that point on, he knew he wanted to serve. The Army takes pride in sustaining a culture where all personnel are treated with dignity and respect and not discriminated against based on race, color, religion, gender and national origin, Cathy Brown Vandermaarel, an Army spokeswoman, told Army Times when asked about the decision to deny Hoskins request. I've since spoken with my mother who informed me that my first cousin, retired USAF Colonel Mark Pistone met his Airforce colonel wife when they were both stationed at something like a MASH unit, in Afghanistan. If you have a problem with that, then move to a country, where you can have better benefits and freedom. You want to practice your religion fine but you should receive no consideration in the workplace. Too many other people at risk for a religious belief or a fashion statement. Other uncategorized cookies are those that are being analyzed and have not been classified into a category as yet.
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