An M1 Carbine made by U.S. National Postal Meter Company is part of Lot 4601 in the Feb. 16-18 Sporting and Collector Auction. Click here for more information. . Dan, thanks for the reply. The stock is in great shape with sharp cartouches. This year, I am considering a few varieties for graft, Take Action Now: How You Can Fight Climate Change and Protect Our Environment, The Effects of Climate Change on Our Environment By collecting seeds from your own garden or buying them in bulk, you can save money on future purchases. Click on the image above to learn more about the M1 Carbine, The Carbine Collectors Club Copyright 2019 www.USCarbineCal30.com, This The metal shows a small scrapes as well as light handling marks. (NPM) Had some of the finest walnut. The change back to N might have been that Niedner sent what they had. NE - GOOD- in working condition, wear on working surfaces, finish 40% - 79%, no broken parts, no corrosion or pitting that will interfere with proper functioning, but may have some minor surface pitting. National is obscured by the rear sight. Skip to the beginning of the images gallery, 73 Plank Ave Paoli, Beautiful NPM. It obtained a former automobile showroom and repair shop and drew supervisory and engineering personnel from across the country. Our goal is to encourage collectors by providing honest descriptions, fair prices, and the best customer service. Feb. 16-18 Sporting and Collector Auction, An article from the Rochester Democrat & Chronicle, Feb. 16-18 Sporting and Collectors Auction. 15 round magazines:Originally packed 100 to a case, with cardboard dividers and separate wrapping papers for each magazine--usually a brown These sold for around $1.00 to $1.75 retail (new in wrapper) before the U.S. (September, 1994) magazine ban, and even less by the case. We do not know if the rifle was issued in this manner or later assembled to use all NPM factory parts. The technical storage or access is strictly necessary for the legitimate purpose of enabling the use of a specific service explicitly requested by the subscriber or user, or for the sole purpose of carrying out the transmission of a communication over an electronic communications network. Overall Condition: This rifle retains about 85% of its metal finish. The Folmer-Graflex camera Joe Rosenthal used to snap the picture of the U.S. Marines raising the flag atop Mount Suribachi on Iwo Jima was made in Rochester. Rifle Caliber: .30 Carbine. The LOP measures 13 1/8 inches from the front of the trigger to the back of the buttplate. The magazine is not available to residents of California or any state with magazine capacity restrictions. But looks very nice. BW -Winchester. Excellent World War II U.S. National Postal Meter M1 Semi-Automatic Carbine Auction Date: April 15, 2018 Estimated Price: $ 3,000 - $ 4,500 Price Realized: Details Excellent World War II U.S. National Postal Meter M1 Semi-Automatic Carbine Manufacturer: National Postal Meter Model: M1-Carbine Type: Carbine Gauge: 30 Carbine Barrel: 18 inch round The store will not work correctly in the case when cookies are disabled. The top of the handguard shows small scrapes. 94 W. Cochran St., Suite B The hammer is marked WI which is an Inland mark (page 89-90). Lock, Stock & Barrel Investments That included National Postal Meter. Thanks for sharing it with us! Companies with no gun-making experience were called upon for production. No Barrel Date. To get better and faster responses and opinions. purchased from CMP 0/8. The scrapes on the trigger guard are more prominent. Join Date: November 7, 2010. Most of our products are unique. All correct and original parts with a parts list included in the photos for the listing. The technical storage or access is necessary for the legitimate purpose of storing preferences that are not requested by the subscriber or user. At some point it was rebuilt using a mix of USGI parts but the Marlin barrel appears to be original. Undated IBM barrel, standard markings on the receiver heel with "U" Underwood subcontractor marking, rare low wood Trimble stock, canvas web sling, and oiler. If you have different pictures contact me and I will put the pictures in your folder so you can post them. Year of Manufacture:October to December, 1943 (page 29 of Scott Duffs book The M1 Carbine Owners Guide). The sling well is marked with a flaming bomb and IR which is not listed in our reference material (page 108-110). Sights / Optics: The front sight is a post set between two protective wings. We do not know if the rifle was issued in this manner or later assembled to use all NPM factory parts. The Type II rear sight is marked with a faded H in a shield on the right which was used by other manufacturers (page 30 & 184). The technical storage or access is required to create user profiles to send advertising, or to track the user on a website or across several websites for similar marketing purposes. T Shelhamer VP of the company, said a dump truck backed up to the door and dumped a lot of steel blocks from which the sights were made. To provide the best experiences, we use technologies like cookies to store and/or access device information. The guns design was in part created by David Marshall Carbine Williams when he was an inmate in a North Carolina prison serving a murder sentence. The right lug of the bolt is marked AOB which is an IBM mark (page 36). I believe you are credited for them. Stock Configuration & Condition:The oil finished hardwood stock has a pistol grip, Type III barrel band with sling loop & bayonet lug, sling well, sling pass through, and a metal buttplate. As with all previously owned firearms, a thorough cleaning may be necessary to meet your maintenance standards. We offer a 7 day inspection period and hassle free returns to ensure every customer is happy with whatever they buy from us. The 15 round magazine is not available to residents of California or any jurisdiction with magazine capacity restrictions. We did not fire this rifle. This Military Surplus National Postal Meter M1 Carbine was one of approximately 413,017 guns manufactured by this company and shipped between February 1943 and April 1944 to our Armed Forces. The bore does have minor frost through the grooves but good rifling. Great article I really enjoyed it. Manufacturer: National Postal Meter Model: M-1 Carbine Serial Number: 4340XXX Barrel Length: 18 inch Bore: Measures "1" (VG) Condition: Very Good to Excellent Metal Condition: Very Good Wood Condition: Excellent Bore Condition: Mirror - Excellent Action: Semi Auto Stock: Walnut See all listings by Jim's Classic Guns Print this listing The bore shows an M.E. The exposed metal shows scrapes, discoloration, areas of oxidation, and light thinning. Manufacturer: National Postal Meter. Close up of Featured Carbine front sight pin staking. December of 1943 and May of 1944. Overall, this rifle rates in about Very Good Plus to Fine condition as refinished. Markings: There is no visible import mark. I just happened upon this article on the ODCMP website. But what can we do to help? The rear of the receiver is marked; "NATIONAL/POSTAL METER/4298005" and the front section of the barrel is marked "I.B.M. I am sure everyone is familiar with the typical Niedner N. I guess the question is the variations of Neider sights used by other manufactures. Simi Valley, CA 93065. They happen after a government authority test fires a gun with ammunition designed to make sure the gun will pass a minimum set for a particular type of ammo. The markings are deep. Mechanics: The action functions correctly. A U.S. National Postal Meter M1 is in the Feb. 16-18 Sporting and Collector Auction. .30, M1 on the front and NATIONAL / POSTAL METER / 4346684 / U on the rear. We buy and sell collectible firearms and militaria ranging from the Civil War to Desert Storm, specializing in WW1 & WW2. Overall, this rifle rates in about Very Good condition. Copyright 2011-2023 All Rights Reserved. Like seeing the type I trigger housing pin, don't see too many of them, at least I don't. Mechanics: The action functions correctly. The Todd Company, a maker of protectographs or checkwriters was responsible for nine smaller parts. Haven't seen an NN front sight like that before with the other N off to the left, presumably hand stamped. Barrel Length: 18 inch. The barrel is marked MARLIN as well as P under the barrel band. Despite these issues NPM was able to produce about 6.8% of the total number of WWII M1 Carbines. Lock, Stock & Barrel Investments I was wondering if anyone might be able to help me price my M1 Carbine. They now sell for $4.50 to $7.00 each. To provide the best experiences, we use technologies like cookies to store and/or access device information. -Type III (Post War) -Could be marked: "SA" "RIA" "P" "R" -Bolts -Type I (Flat Bolt) -Inland: Right Lug, Marked "IO" in a circle, or the flaming bomb -Winchester: Right Lug, Unmarked / Punch Mark -No other contractors made these -Type II (Flat Bolt) -Inland: Left Lug, Marked "IO" "OI" "AI" "IO" in a circle The inside of the handguard is marked HI which is an Inland mark (page 138). The technical storage or access is strictly necessary for the legitimate purpose of enabling the use of a specific service explicitly requested by the subscriber or user, or for the sole purpose of carrying out the transmission of a communication over an electronic communications network. The marks on the stock have been finished over. Finally checked my parts stash and found the NN sight. NOTE: This rifle uses all NPM factory parts. In total, GMs Inland Manufacturing produced 2.6 million M1 carbines during the war and Winchester made more than 800,000. Wood condition commensurable with percent of finish with dings and dents associated with 40% - 79% gun. Notice how the smaller N appears done with some form of rotary engraver. The carbines design wasnt adopted until October, 1941, when the early requirement was for 886,698 M1 carbines. The reoiled stock is very good with some minor dents and scratches. With the anticipated arival of an M1 Carbine in the next couple of weeks I have purchased some mags and decided to do some digging to see who made them. There is erosion at the muzzle. A company in Rochester, N.Y., that made metered mailing machines, postal scales, and letter-handling equipment, was one of them. Model: M1 Carbine Serial Number: 4346684 Year of Manufacture: Circa 1944. Not sure though as that would be a Dan question. 94 W. Cochran St., Suite B The right rear of the trigger group is marked INLAND which is an inland mark (page 48). Our Assessment: This National Postal Meter (NPM) M1 Carbine was built back in 1943. We have not fired this rifle. The government furnished the barrels (mostly made by Underwood) and subcontracted out the other parts hence, Trimble Nurserylands involvement in the war effort. The rear sight is an adjustable Type II aperture assembly. The National Postal Meter M1 Carbine is available in the Feb. 16-18 Sporting and Collectors Auction. It is in about Very Good Plus condition. Each company had to provide 10 guns for production tests that included physical inspection along with accuracy, endurance, dust, mud, and rain. The best way to ensure an item is yours is to purchase it directly off the website. Simi Valley, CA 93065. U.S. National Postal Meter M1 Semi-Automatic CarbineUndated IBM barrel, standard markings on the receiver heel with "U" Underwood subcontractor marking, rare low wood Trimble stock, canvas web sling, and oiler. That changed when the United States entered World War II. The Type IV magazine release is marked M (page 98). Correct type sights, band and stock! Last year, I grew Fortamino but the seeds didnt do well at all. The M1 Carbine contributed greatly to U.S. efforts during WWII. The top of the receiver is marked U.S. Copyright 2015-document.write(new Date().getFullYear()) Our Assessment:This National Postal Meter (NPM) M1 Carbine was built back in 1943. The right rear of the trigger group is marked W which is a Winchester mark (page 78). A little history of NPM and its carbines. Being from Rochester, NPMs are my favorite. Shortly after the approval of their 2nd contract, but before production started, Rochester Defense Corporation was dissolved and its assets merged into National Postal Meter. The LOP measures 13 inches from the front of the trigger to the back of the buttplate. nitro4blood (1,165) 100%. It was recommended for further study to determine why they did so well in the rain but no results were reported. Bore Condition: The muzzle is gray due to refinishing. Marlin supplied undated barrels to NPM (page 50-51). Burning fossil fuels for energy rel, Growing Tom Wagner's Varieties of Tomatoes: A Gardener's Guide With Tips & Advice, Tom Wagner is a renowned horticulturist who has created several varieties of tomatoes, including the popular "Fort Vancouver Yellow Pear", "Pennsylvania Catchfly", "Santa Anna" and "Sunspot". Box, Paperwork & Accessories: The rifle has a canvas sling attached. Make: National Postage Meter Model: M1-Carbine Serial # - Firearms: 4161349 Caliber: 30 Carbine Barrel Length: 18 inch round Condition: Other Low Estimate: 3,000 High Estimate: 4,500 Other: walnut Excellent World War II U.S. National Postal Meter M1 Semi-Automatic Carbine Our Assessment:The M1 Carbine was developed and produced after WWII started. The sling well is marked TN which is an NPM mark (page 108 109). National Postal Meters carbines were made with parts mostly manufactured by other companies. Climate change is one of the most pressing issues of our time, and its effects can be seen all around us. The hammer is partially marked HI was used by NPM and two other manufacturers (page 59). An M1 Carbine made by U.S. National Postal Meter Company is part of Lot 4601 in the Feb. 16-18 Sporting and Collector Auction. The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for statistical purposes. Tom Wagner's Varieties: A Gardener's Guide I recently bought 3 from Brownlee's . All Rights Reserved. Stock Configuration & Condition: The two piece hardwood stock has a pistol grip, Type IA barrel band with sling loop, sling well, sling pass through and a metal buttplate. We have not fired this rifle. JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. 3. Many have damaged portions of the surface wood. This is a very collectible M1 carbine that will add nicely to a collection. The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for anonymous statistical purposes. Sights / Optics:The front sight is a post set between two protective wings. It is also possible that there was a setup problem when machining the post which required the N to be stamped again. -Approximately 413,017 total Carbines were made by National Postal Meter (Including 239 field replacement receivers marked "Commercial Controls". Serial Number: 1478620. No Barrel Date. Raising of the flag atop Mount Suribachi on Iwo Jima. Our Assessment: Union Switch & Signal produced this M1 Carbine receiver under contract for National Postal Meter (NPM). @GotSnlB28 - If you locate your example, could you post a picture of it? At the time of their first contract, the company had no tools, no employees, and no location for building carbines. Sights / Optics: The front sight is a post set between two protective wings. No Barrel Date, Action Type: Semi Auto, Detachable Magazine. Click here for more information. (Mods I didn't know if here or milsurps was the place for this feel free to move it.). The underside of the handguard is marked TN which is an NPM mark (page 138). Trigger Housing: Right:'N' - Left: either '9'/'g'. The stock shows numerous scrapes, scratches and compression marks. Copyright 2011-2023 All Rights Reserved. or consider how International Silver was allowed to just mark oilers IS after a certain point. The original "Trimble Tn" marked stock set is also in excellent condition overall, free from any cracks, chips, repairs, or major damage. Ser. The technical storage or access is required to create user profiles to send advertising, or to track the user on a website or across several websites for similar marketing purposes. The underside of the Type I handguard is marked RSG which was used by Saginaw Gear (page 138). Not consenting or withdrawing consent, may adversely affect certain features and functions. Marlin supplied undated barrels to Inland (page 51 of Craig Rieschs book, U.S. M1 Carbines Wartime Production 7thEdition). The bottom of the receiver is double stamped 21. It also list Lyman and Super Metal Mfg. National Postal Meter M1 Carbine. The first step is to understand the causes of climate change and how we can reduce our impact on the environment. Caliber: .30 Carbine Action Type: Semi Auto, Detachable Magazine In 1942, as the shock of Pearl Harbor wore off, the war effort in the United States ramped up. Hey all, I am somewhat familiar with M1 Carbines (mostly Inlands) but had a question about a National Postal Meter rifle. The M1 Carbine was widely issued to U.S. Military Forces which numbered over 16 million during WWII. Looks to be the original parkerized finish, showing some slight wear along the high edges, a few areas of brown spotting and minor handling marks. The United States military had the semi-automatic M1 Garand rifle but there was a realization that something between a rifle and pistol was needed. The left rear of the trigger group is marked N / 16 which is an NPM mark (page 78). SOLD - National Postal Meter M1 Carbine $2,295.00 Availability: Out of stock SKU 4092381 - 21325 Next/Previous Description 8/2/22 - This is a National Postal Meter M1 Carbine from 1944. Ultimately ordnance did not want to deal with the subcontractors. Box, Paperwork& Accessories: The rifle comes with a 15 round magazine. Bore Condition:The bore is bright; semi bright at the muzzle. Here some pictures of my National postal meter with A lot of markings. The technical storage or access is required to create user profiles to send advertising, or to track the user on a website or across several websites for similar marketing purposes. Make: National Postal Meter.