If you can get it fixed cheaply and sell the car off you might get more money back than if you leave the gaffa tape on there. My dealer put a paint protection film on the front and rear bumper of the car. I am guessing the only time I would have it open would be a night drive anyway. But my main concern is whether all cars with the panoramic sunroof have the sun shades to block out the sun. 2 years of issues and now 2 weeks of not being able to use the car. The strong frame surrounding the sunroof actually adds rigidity to the roof. Id waited until an example had come up for sale. its ironic babe.. relax.. grow a couple brain cells, maybe think before you speak, Purchased a, Believe It or Not, 2021 Kia Sportage SX. 2016 BMW 528I. We were more concerned about his front end and wanted to give him our insurance info in case he needed to make a claim. Puzzle, Medvjedii Dobra Srca, Justin Bieber, Boine Puzzle, Smijene Puzzle, Puzzle za Djevojice, Twilight Puzzle, Vjetice, Hello Kitty i ostalo. Lovely airy and open feel when driving. Never again. what is the typical cost for that kind of tinting? Ive seen plenty of people do that to their vehicles and it looks fantastic. Once owned an SL, and never removed the top. Igre Kuhanja, Kuhanje za Djevojice, Igre za Djevojice, Pripremanje Torte, Pizze, Sladoleda i ostalog.. Talking Tom i Angela te pozivaju da im se pridrui u njihovim avanturama i zaigra zabavne igre ureivanja, oblaenja, kuhanja, igre doktora i druge. During sunny or cloudy weekends with cold or warm temperature opening it even in winter, 7-10 Celsius temp, sunny day and doors windows closed whats the problem, open up your panoramic sunroof and enjoy its freedom sensation. Perhaps if the author had ever owned a car with pan roof the article may have been six reasons to have one. Life after Wheeler Dealers: What has Edd China been up to? I was recently in Boston and rented an Aud Q3 with a panoramic sunroof, the car would get so hot that I couldnt stand it. Actually, Josh Readys is THE best reply on this forum!! It boils really down to the brand and car-characteristics in my mind. I had not heard about any of them exploding, and assume it is a rare thing. Naturally VW Service was planning to give me a hard time ie: did screen wrap around motor (covered) or did motor eat screen (covered). The 100 Best Top Gear Episodes Ever (Pt3), Edd China returns with Garage Revival YouTube series. Often it is simply too hot, too cold or too windy to drive with the roof down and as a result the driver eventually stops using it. Someone, somewhere must have started the legal proceedings regarding the leak fault? The main disadvantage is that since its made of glass, it can break. You still hear horror stories occasionally, though. My wife was looking to buy a 2016 with the pano sunroof and its a toss up of a Tiguan with and without the sunroof. Where possible, they also try to position heavy items (such as the engine, gearbox and fuel tank) as low as possible, in order to improve vehicle stability and handling. So here is probably an even worse idea. And some of these issues, such as broken glass while driving, can be life-threatening. Your comments about panoramic car ceilings are to the point. Increased heat entering the vehicle This might seem obvious, but a panoramic sunroof creates a massive window 2. What did I do? The rear shade gets opened when were in the woods or dense cities to enjoy the scenery more. The weight first of all, since if it was opening, it added an additional mechanism. It is certainly not for hit dusty countries like Egypt when you have your aircondition on all the time to protect you from heat and noise . But, why didnt you stress the explosive sunroofs?! If it gets too chilly, I just close it part way and put the heat on. (about the time it takes me to buckle up and bluetooth my phone). Panoramic sunroof: available as standards on higher trims. What are the cars was 13 years old and I never had any issues with leakage, despite Going through some pretty rough conditions in Canadian weather. A panoramic roof is much more expansive and typically covers both front and rear seats. It doesnt darken the interior much, because thats not its purpose, its designed to repel UV rays to help reduce heat. Many were covered by warranty, but with lower mileage and they were newer vehicles. Had no problems on a Ford for 20 years with a moon roof with a manual sunshade. Glass/Sun shade are over my head so when shade back i do get additional head clearance. If it is too cold, the February 20, 2022. With a light interior it lets so much light in it isnt worth using. Would recommend it. I will never have a tin can again; always a glass view upwards to enjoy the tall buildings in the city and the beautiful grandiose treetops of the forests. This helps in deflecting the suns heat as well. I love the sound of rain hitting windows so itll be fine its relaxing. The garage never asked if we were on a hill and assumed it was a minor blockage in the drains. More prone to leakage. I have had one on a Cadillac for 17 years with zero problems. Dont listen to the negative comments I love my panoramic sunroof!! Frenchservicesandspares.co.za. More trouble than it is worth, probably. So far I have not experience any trouble with the roof construction. Which had a very nice windshield that extended over the roof giving a ver wide viewing-angle. If you are leasing I think it is ok but never own it.. Gugu. They only wanted to get out of it what they paid for it over a year ago, $1,500.00. On the highway those pieces of a crowd all go flying, and if they hit a panoramic sunroof, the sunroof completely shatters. Everyone is talking about the sunroof, though my Toyota Highlander 2017 has a panoramic moonroof? The A class has multiple parts that break and can be replaced individually , now yes the roof has to be removed for most parts but two days labor ? Im in Durban South Africa, is there anyone I could contact who could help me this project? The article mentioned that even with the shade, heat builds between the glass and the shade. I have a Hyundai Elantra GT and I LOVE my sunroof. Will be doing that maintenance from here on. Im gone to tell my little brother, that he should also pay a visit this weblog on regular basis to take updated from most recent news update.|. Have had a VW with panaoramic sunroof for about 8 years with no problems. Never had any problems with any of them and, as I live in the dark, dank north of England, I welcome the extra light they provide. (imagine thick wheels on a overweight car. Heat build up isnt too bad with the shade drawn, and car cools pretty quickly with sunroof open to vent out the hot air. I just had my panoramic moonroof shattered into a million pieces over my kids heads after a light pole fell on us at a stoplight. But with that said, I do have friends with panoramic sunroofs, who wish to God they never had them for one reason he didnt mention. A bit noisy when pano is open over 130 kmh. The reason they weigh so much is due to glass being a heck of a lot thicker and heavier than steel or aluminium roof panels, not to mention all the additional reinforcing bars, electric motors and drainage channels required. It turns out that the water was pooling in the front middle of the sunroof and didnt get a chance to drain. I have a panoramic sunroof, and I havent experienced any difference between summer and winter and having a panoramic sunroof. Searched online and found out that its several owners of this model are going thru the same problem.. They call them panoramic glass roofs and Im not a fan. Following are the possible disadvantages of a sunroof. Cars which have opening sunroofs are a pain especially in britain as you hardly use the, I had a car with a removable roof once and I never used it!! Despite being a nice comfy drive and a high quality feel, it just sits on the drive and never gets used as it is depressingly dark inside. I will definitely buy another Hyundai with a a Panoramic sunroof in the future. Im hesitant to buy a car with that darn hole in the roof but I also want to stick to brands I trust from here on out. I do not agree. Im betting your engine exploding is more likely than your sunroof exploding. I am a physician and also run a Business of Kindness. This glass top van is to be used for our residents to get them out of the confines of the building during the long winter months. Q5 & Q7 owners are unhappy with thrall glass roofs which are made of tempered glass which can shatter unlike the safer LAMINATED glass Volvo uses. Ive owned vehicles with regular sunroofs for years and never had this to happen. I buy cars new and drive them for many years but Id never kept the same car longer than 12 years before now. Downsides include the fact that you can't open it, that you have to go without roof rails, and that no regular moonroof is available elsewhere in the Venza range. Any help would be appreciated. Looking at a GLE ourselves and the sunshade for the panoramic roof is a joke actually. On real hot summer days, I close the shade to block the sun so Im not worried about that. What are the disadvantages of panoramic sunroof? I live in a temperate climate region and with no mistake, I do drive my Golf once every fortnight or less in average with sunroof totally opened, it means I opened it for at least 25-30 times a year even more. The only roof that gave me problems was the Chrysler 300. Photo: Robin Trajano/Kia. A spoiler sunroof costs between $700 and $1100, while a moonroof installation costs around $1300-$2500. id get a convertible or a regular roof (better a carbon fiber roof like in my bmw m5). These sunroofs have a panel that slides open between the roof and the built-in headliner of the car. I have my panoramic on my Hyundai Sonata 2016, I Dont have any issue I love it! Even on the hottest days, before I drive off, I crack open the sunroof to let out the heat and its gone in no time. Can you offer sage advice, guidance on pano roofs in VW Alltracks? In most vehicles, you cant have the sunroof open unless the internal sunshades are completely retracted, meaning the entire vehicle is open to the sun. In short I love my panoramic sunroof & if it gets faulty after my car is out of warranty, I dont mind I will pay to get it fixed in Merc approved places to get it work properly. Ive never experienced any issues with conventional sunroofs, even in a few older vehicles I owned in the past. They may look fantastic and the idea of owning a vehicle with one fitted is extremely appealing, but do consider my warning that the reality of owning a car with a panoramic sunroof might not live up to your expectations. It is also worth noting that raindrops hitting a glass roof are louder, too. At night the Panoramic Roof also glows from the LED track lighting the GT model comes with which gives and amazing look. I used to own a 2005 BMW E61 525D. They had to replace the headliner as well due to water staining in the left rear corner as well as some rails which was not in the original $4000 quote. I am looking at preowned Audis Q5 or 7dont think it will be easy one without a sunroof. Its a convertible without the extra hassles. I found the headliner on a car with a tinted glass roof to be significantly hotter than vehicles with conventional roofs. We purchased a 2011 MKX three years ago (with about 60k miles on it). Sounds like a terrifying thing to deal with while youre doing 70mph! Inbuilt Sunroof. My solution will be, since a car is white, I will cover a glass from the outside with a white wrap foil, just for few months in the summer, in September I will pull it off till May next year, it will cost me 13eur per year to do this and I am sure car wont look that bad and I still can open a roof anytime I wont. So youd probably have to be pretty unlucky to have it happen to you. Never had a problem with noise or leaking. Understanding lead-acid batteries, 7 Reasons why leather interiors are terrible. Id go fully convertible if I want the top down. Some companies offer thicker window tint film which they suggest helps to hold the glass together in the event of it shattering. HEED SEANS ADVICE. Been back at the dealership 5 times and they have even replaced the frame with no solution. How much does it cost to put a sunroof in a car? Without the covered warranty, it would have cost me over $3000. I just hope it is repairable and at no cost to me! I think it sounds like a pretty crazy idea. Do you ever considered there was an alternative to that motorized panoramic sunroof, called moonroof? Found the part online ranging from $3,900-4,900US; also, looked for possible lightly damaged MKXs (Ford Edges) where parts maybe available for purchase; found some ranging from $900-1,100US. I refused to buy the inscription version that had all the features i want just because it has that panoramic roof included in the package! In the summertime it s amazing and it adds to a more voluminous feeling in the car. give me a break . It simply isnt acceptable for it to not be covered under warranty it is only 3 years old. In addition, service attempted to tell ME the warranty was only good upto 60,000 miles. Dont think Ill miss it. January 2017 I took it in for a recall about the wind deflector, and took it back in April of 2017 because the seal kept popping out on the passenger side every time I opened the sunroof. So when I buy a new car next year I will grab a 2017 Sonata limited so that I can have my sunroof again. This might seem obvious, but a panoramic sunroof creates a massive window (literally) through which heat from the sun can enter your vehicle. Although not worth the extra cost, they are great for kids to look out when doing safaris or national park loops. Unless you special order from dealer, I googled it and found a few people who experienced issues youre rolling the dice so your particular car might be fine or it might not be! Ever since we have been parking level and havent had the problem since. Most people would tend to agree with how good they look, but having owned a panoramic sunroof equipped vehicle for the past 3 years or so, I feel there are some important issues which new car buyers need to consider before they tick that particular box on the options list. The Genesis G80 sunroof is huge and has less heat issues, unlike benz, audi, etc, the retractable shade in very thick and blocks ALL light and heat from entering the cabin. But seeing the reviews, plus I saw an article about 2015 recalls on the sonata panoramic sunroof, I am not so sure now. Mind you, its not a panoramic sunroof, but the smaller kind. WebOne of the main disadvantages of a sunroof is that it can reduce the structural integrity of a cars roof due to a large opening being made in it. In fact may I recommend a Bicycle instead.. Im collecting one this week and just found out there is no sunshade attached and Im really worried now. I am driving s GLB and I can remotely open the roof fully or set it to ventilate. Personally, I couldnt care less about have a panoramic sunroof but my wife likes it. I tested it against a Lexus ES350 (without a panoramicI dont even think they make one for the Lexus ES) and my car was about 80 as quiet already, and I understand when I get new tires if I get a certain Pirelli model it will be just about as quiet as a Lexus, because the tires were tested in both cars. I understand this is a freak accident but it leads to a nunber of other safety questions. 2016 and 2008 Mazda Miatas to name a few you cannot keep the shade closed and have it cracked open for air. Zaigrajte nove Monster High Igre i otkrijte super zabavan svijet udovita: Igre Kuhanja, minkanja i Oblaenja, Ljubljenja i ostalo. I actually like it. When the roof is closed it brings a lot of daylight into the car. There are 4 drains in the sunroof, one in each corner. Its that bad. The disadvantages of the sunroof in cars are not so extreme, but it will not be suitable for the tall drivers. I may have thought twice. Was Edd China right? When I park either of mine the front sunscreens go on the windshield and on the Mercedes the rear sunshade goes up. And an acquaintance has had the same model car with a panoramic roof for four years and shes not yet had a single problem. Cons: Wind noise when driving with an open roof; Possibility of water leaks; More weight to the car roof (Affects fuel economy); Expensive to replace. Not regarding exactly what we are talking here, but my plan is to make one 12 seater Mercedes pick up van with total glass roof and windows. WebThe Honda HR-V also comes with a Panoramic sunroof and has a cost of $27,720. What area of the country are you? It also wouldnt stop in the rain, due to the inboard disk brakes. I have a 2013 Hyundai Elantra GT with the panoramic roof. Nick. TopGearbox is an automotive website providing news and reviews of all the latest Grand Tour, Top Gear, Wheeler Dealers episodes and more. Im average height, and I nearly brush the sunshade in my Merc E class. Im thinking of purchasing one and would be happy to hear from an experienced owner of panoramic sunroof (; I have owned a Renault Kangoo with a fixed glass and an electric webasto for 20 years, driven it all around Europe with the roof regularly open and utterly love the light airy feeling the sunroofs provide. The real value is you enjoy meteor shower with your girl while drifting along the circling mountain roads. Sorry to hear about your experience Patrick. That's right, sunroofs are so I close the shade in the heat of the day because sun shining through the top makes interior hotter and the armrest super hot. AND IT MAKES RESELLING YOUR CAR FOR A FAIR PRICE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE. Can someone let me know if they have had a tinted pan roof WITHOUT a sunshade? My previuos car was a VW Touran and now I have a VW SportsVan both with panoramic sunroof. Disadvantages Of Sunroof In Car. I am test driving mostly vehicles with this option/feature. Thanks for your help, Moon-roof or sun-roof comes with nothing but problems. The only other alternative for tall drivers is to recline their seat back further in an attempt to gain more headroom, but this can create ergonomic issues relating to steering wheel and pedal reach. Car dealers will almost always quote you an arm and a leg for sunroof repairs, and multiple parts can break with most parts requiring removal of the roof lining and the sunroof itself in order to replace. $1000 deductible. Eventually we do get it closed (sometimes an hour or two later after car restarts and tinkering with the control). Im just glad no one was hurt by a flying sunroof or me losing complete control. In fact if I were you I would opt to buy a vehicle with no Engine at all. So lets summarise. Sounds like a terrible idea. WebOther disadvantages of a sunroof include: Less fuel efficiency because sunroof increases the overall weight of your vehicle; Reduced headroom; More prone to leakage; More realized the car seems lighter inside.and I love the air. Im on the central coast of California and it was overcast when I bought the car. Morning, we have a BMW GT 2010 535i, we had to replace the sunroof springs, after a year we have to come back for replace the part with the warranty, now little before the year the same part its has to be change, so for 3 years in a row we have to change over and over the same exact part, what we can do?? Also dont get all this talk about noise. It seems like the higher end cars are having to biggest problems. Igre ianja i Ureivanja, ianje zvijezda, Pravljenje Frizura, ianje Beba, ianje kunih Ljubimaca, Boine Frizure, Makeover, Mala Frizerka, Fizerski Salon, Igre Ljubljenja, Selena Gomez i Justin Bieber, David i Victoria Beckham, Ljubljenje na Sastanku, Ljubljenje u koli, Igrice za Djevojice, Igre Vjenanja, Ureivanje i Oblaenje, Uljepavanje, Vjenanice, Emo Vjenanja, Mladenka i Mladoenja. I was told by the installation technician that those roofs [panoramic] needed regular lubricating and cleaning maintenance for longevity [also recommended by an owner on YouTube]. I AM PLANNIG TO BUY A NEW SANTA FE SPORT LIMITED WITH ALL THE BELLS AND WHISTLES. > meaning the entire vehicle is open to the sun. Sorry to hear about that. Off warranty means open your wallet. It was a great and useful read. I live in Victoria and use it almost year round on city driving as well as country touring. Think about it like this. Ive never liked sunroofs as they all tend to be troublesome eventually, leak, are noisy when open and serve no purpose other than watching an aircraft or bird fly over. We pulled over and the man circled back to us. On hot days I left the roof partly open and the shade nearly closed. The only down side is I now cant stand journeys in cats without them! Pridrui se neustraivim Frozen junacima u novima avanturama. And the warranty people WILL take note. I was looking for this information relating to 6 reasons to avoid a panoramic roof. I make sure my Skoda dealer pays particular attention to the lube & drain cleaning requirements of my roof at each service, & Ive hd no trouble at all. The engine is most needed for the car to operate. Not true in my model. I have a good friend in the glass tinting business, I had him tint the underside of the panoroof in my E550 and as well the fixed roof panel in my Smart car. You do hear about panoramic roofs exploding occasionally, but the issue seems fairly uncommon. Thanks. The use of the roof its about 2 months a year. I would have been forewarned and did the regular maintenance which it seems is not mentioned in the manual. anyway if you (like me) change cars every 2-3 years dont worry about the damages (you have warranty on it) about the heat from the sun during the summer I recommend you guys before you seat into the car (not only for panoramic roof) open at least two doors of your vehicle one door on each side for 1 min. Just today driving along the coast with AC on and roof shade closed I was wondering why it felt so hot. My recently purchased 1999 Toyota Corolla also has a moon roof at least thats how its described in the owners manual. The sunroof is an added structural weakness in the roof of the vehicle, and if the glass shatters in a crash, it can cause more serious injuries to occupants due to flying shards of glass. I have a panoramic and an all-black interiorshould be a recipe for a hot mess, right? This is why you do NOT buy a car with a sunroof especially a BMW or Mercedes, and more especially NOT in Australia. It was a must-have after growing accustomed to the light in the car after driving a Alfa-Romeo Brera. Here are a few disadvantages of sunroofs which you should know. You could write an article like this for like everything in your life: kids, pet, house, flat, swimming pool etc. Read about lots of problems in the cars early history, but not so much with 19 model year. At least USD $1500 to fix. I love my Golf7 sunroof too. WebAre There Disadvantages? Youll save yourself a ton of money in repairs! Not hit by anything, just decided it was time to commit suicide. My 2016 Mercedes C300 sunroof exploded 2 days ago. It doesnt create the cavitation in the cabin like my old sunroof did. In six years of driving with a pano, I think Ive had it open maybe twice. I myself dont need that much sun while driving or an escape hatch. WebA panoramic sunroof needs additional reinforcing bars, motor and drainage channels, which in turn makes the vehicle top-heavy. Reduced headroom. I dont think theres any difference between the two. Best thing I ever did was check the moonriof,delete on the options sheet. If you are using tempered glass, when it breaks it can have a tendency to very rapidly shatter across its entire volume, but will also shatter into overall harmless fragments, rather than the shards youll see from non-tempered glass. Now after reading this and other articles, have decided to delete the pano on my order. The 2016 Volkswagen Golf is the most expensive car with a panoramic sunroof in the affordable category. thats why its called moonroof. Not worth the possible hassles. Sometimes the difference can be as much as 50mm (2 inches). Igre Lakiranja i Uljepavanja noktiju, Manikura, Pedikura i ostalo. Everything happened do fast but I saw that the wind deflector came apart. I am looking at them as well. car importationimportmoonroofpanoramic roofsunroofsunroof vs moonroof Previous Post (p) What are daytime running lights? sunroofs for the 2018 cars. I would not be surprised if it left plenty of chip marks though. I have the roof open whenever it stops raining. What bothers me about the new electric cars Im considering, (Tesla, Audi, Volvo, even the 23 Prius), they no longer offer sunroofs that open. I have been searching and searching for a car that even gives the option not to have a pano or sunroof at all. And the extra weight hasnt caused me to flip the car over. I use it as much as possible here in New England, often times Ill have it open with hear cranking too. The first downside is that you can experience the above problems at any time. I have a 2013 Optima and despite hating the car over all, I LOVE the panoramic roof. I bought my car knowing very well the risks involved and I like it that way and I will sell it before a wear and tear. There are many hurdles to this project. People often purchase convertible vehicles because they imagine theyll get the roof down all the time, but the reality is very different. . I live in the UK. You could simply get a Honda CR-V current model has a panoramic roof but it doesnt open so its fixed shut so you get nice scenery and its just basically a massive window. How about two smaller (front and back) sun-roofs/sun-slits of the manual or semi-manual variety. But it is important to note that the issues described here are an extremely small percentage of the millions of glass roofed cars on the worlds roads. I have just bought a car with a fixed panoramic sunroof and I love it!! Is there a similar protection film for the glass roof? That said, I love it, its very quiet at freeway speed to have it open. I see it as a safety issue and after owning an old 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee with one, I learned just how inconvenient they could be. what a difference. The seals have already been replaced once after 12 months and the roof has been rattling since I leased the vehicle. In most cases the warranty does not cover the sliding sunshade and BMW dealers charge about $2000 to fix this problem.. It has the electric sunshades you can close but only if the roof is closed also. There are times that the sun is coming in at an angle that it creates a glare on my touch screen. My Yeti has a sunroof. The severity of this issue depends on your location in the world, how hot the summer temperatures are, and also the clarity of the sky which will determine how strong the sunlight is. I took it to a panel beater who detected the closing mechanism was broken. Idt does not get warmer, and in siome cases the carmaker got rid of the roller sytems, since the thermal comfort is not improved by it. Wish Id seen your post 2 weeks ago when I bought a Lexus ES 350 with Panoramic roof. However, if your problem is commonly recognised then there may be something you can do as far as legal action against BMW? I am a Pastor and like to seen by angels when on the road, panoramic roof helps a lot to be seen in heaven and for me to see heavens, stars and the galaxy the awesome work of the Lord, I like to see the rain or snow come down from top it gives some kind of sensation to enjoy life. A pop-up sunroof is the most affordable to install, averaging $600-$800. I have had sliding roofs on my cars for years and would find it almost impossible to persuade myself to buy any car without one. The retractable cloth sunshades fitted directly below the panoramic sunroof do prevent some of this heat from transferring down into the cabin, but this also means that an incredible amount of heat will build up in the space between. I barely use the sunroof i had, so having a pano roof is not for me and not worth the noise exchange. Obviously, I cannot use the sunroof open in the city thanks to the levels of pollution, but when I drive to the coffee plantations, the starlit black skies and 22C temperatures make the pano sunroof worth every extra penny paid! So I cant use the car until then, cause being summer here in South Africa, it rains almost everyday. I absolutely love them, especially the panoramic roofs Ive had on my last three cars. Im advising a friend whos planning to buy the new 2019 revamped Q3. 2-door, 5-seat hatchback. Now with a suv with a permanent roof rack, it makes even less sense. Your comparison is so funny . My 2012 Mercedes E350 Iridium Silver is beautiful and has not posed any problems whatsoever. We were referred to the Lincoln Customer care division to take up the matter. So long as the sun shades are available and I can block out the sun coming in, then I am okay with the extra heat. Since a sunroof is effectively a giant hole in the roof, it can be I love my glass roofs; they make the interior a light and pleasant place to be. But the best part is, car can only be booked in on January 4th 2017, and there is absolutely no manual override. Ive never been in an accident in a car that does have a sunroof. I will try to update when dealer report is available. I love my panoramic sunroof. Are there studies about the strength/ integrity of the panoramic glass roofs vs regular cartop?